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mking
Posted: Nov 18 2004, 11:02 AM
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It's here.

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Mondo
Posted: Nov 18 2004, 11:07 AM
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This is pretty cool .. thanks for the heads up!

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Posted: Nov 18 2004, 07:37 PM
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that's really cool!
man i'm in love with googles webdesign...it's ueber-minimal
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Posted: Nov 19 2004, 03:22 PM
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That's great. I wonder if 3rd party developers can include it in software?
As far as I know, the main google search engine can be added into programs and websites. It would be great if we could include this as a feature in plebisite.


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Posted: Nov 22 2004, 08:05 PM
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With the regular Google, you can write a web API that is allowed 1,000 Google queries per day. You have to register and obtain a Google key, but (right now) that's all that's required, I believe. I imagine that Google scholar will be much the same. The one caveat: Google APIs cannot be used for profit. Not sure whether the Plebisite has a profit motive at all...I don't imagine it does, but I'm not sure about that. Anyway, there would be some fine print to read. In theory, though, it should be pretty straightforward to write something that queries the Google Scholar database. Is that what you were thinking?


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Posted: Nov 22 2004, 08:07 PM
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i'm gonna speak for schroder and guess that that's exactly what he was thinking
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Posted: Nov 29 2004, 04:26 PM
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Hey,

Here are what some of the people in the information management biz think the impact of this might be. This could be big, or not, in the past the general public has rejected anything where they are not lead to the full text. In trying this out my searches turned up a number of abstracts and articles that I was not authorized to access, but I was quite impressed with the full text that was turned up too.

http://www.resourceshelf.com/2004/11/wow-i...le-scholar.html

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Posted: Dec 9 2004, 05:35 PM
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+ Limit to material published by date
+ Ability to view more than 1000 results. The Google cutoff of 1000 results is still in place with Google Scholar. Ten term query limit also applies.
+ Google is constantly crawling the web but we don't know how often the Google Scholar database is being refreshed with new content


For those interested, here is an in-depth look at the design of google and what makes it tick on the inside. The most complete backgrounder is the Wikipedia Google page. Here's a link to that pages section on the criticisms of google.

Here is a short article, that outlines why Google no longer meets many searchers' needs.

An incredibly exhaustive list of available search engines.

I think Google Scholar is a good move forward and depending on how they are developing it we might even be able to use it to search giraffe's Db's. However, I am concerned that if it is used too extensively on the web, information will become more and more concentrated and to quote wikipedia, "the system is unfairly biased towards large sites, and that the criteria for a page's importance are not subject to peer review."

We are ultimately interested in democratic and peer-review tools for this project.


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